Q:I understand that issue 7 was an epilogue and prologue which is very hard to balance. Still a good read! This book overall has gotten amazing reviews. Though I've seen some unfair reviews and with every issue the Superman Homage Page basically gives bad reviews. Why is that?
The guy who reviews on the Superman Homepage has said he is a clois fan. He has often dragged that factor in when he reviews,which is kind of baffling since the book is not about clois but a relationship between Clark and Diana.
So if one goes in to review a book where one disdains the pairing and constantly compares it to the past because one wants clois, one wonders how objective the reviewer could be. But if that is his opinion, that is his opinion. He’s free to review as he wants. We all have bias and or prejudice if we are honest with ourselves.
But as a reader I don’t believe we need validation from others anyway to make us like or dislike a book. I always urge people, to read themselves and judge. Don’t take our word for it.
But it’s great when we know others enjoy what we have know to be a great concept which is why we are please it is getting good reviews from respected comicbook sites like CBR,IGN, Comicvine, Comicosity, Newsarama etc.
Q:Diamond sale numbers are based off of Preorders? That doesn't count the actually number of copies sold nor digital copies? I don't have a comic store near so I have to mine digitally. So do those numbers actually matter?
Yes, they are and remember they are for the North American market. So we really don’t know how many of those books that Diamond order in large amounts, which usually have some incentive like multiple variants or are returnable, do end up in discount bins or end up being returned. Sales is a way more complex thing. Some fans think they can just look at Diamond and determine the market and make erroneous conclusions . Also Diamond does not account for international, digital, newstand and bookstore sales etc.
Digital sales sure do matter. Because if you look at some other titles via Diamond in isolation they would be considered to be at cancellation numbers but DC still publish them because they do sell digitally. eg Injustice, Smallville, the Beyond titles.
Which is why we don’t pay too much heed to the naysayers who spend a lot of energy trying to convince everyone that Superman/Wonder Woman is not doing well. It is still top 10 hardcopy for DC and top 5 digital. So it does sell well enough in BOTH hardcopy and digital. They both matter.
And on a very important side to business there is merchandising. And as everyone can see, there has been more Superman/Wonder Woman merchandising available since they been a couple. eg Statue, Heroclix, Lego, t-shirts, phonecases,bags, rings sets,bracelets etc etc.
If DC cancel a title, it is safe to assume it simply is not selling well enough and viable to continue. So while some people might moan very loudly and we feel for them if the title is a favorite for them, it is ultimately a business. And to be fair to DC, they still try with new titles to test the market but it is ultimately down to fans to put their money where their mouth is. If DC gives us what we say we wanted and lobbied for but we don’t go and buy it, then when they don’t publish that series or cancel that book, we really can’t point fingers and blame them.
So support what you love if you can.
Okay, with the DC Comics solicitations being released any day now, it looks as of we’ll be seeing the September Futures End #1 oneshots solicited alongside the
Superman/Wonder Woman Futures #1
Superman/Wonder Woman Annual #1
DC COMICS SUPERMAN AND WONDER WOMAN KISS T-SHIRT
Hot Topic now has the Jim Lee JL#12 cover for the guys.
Comic Book Resources - REVIEW: Superman/Wonder Woman #7 - Superman/Wonder Woman #7 serves both as epilogue to the last storyline and prologue to the next one around the bend, but Charles Soule and the art team juggle the different balls fairly well.
Superman/Wonder Woman #7 Review
"Superman/Wonder Woman" #7 has a lot to tackle. It needs to serve as an epilogue to the first storyline that ran through issues #1-6, act as a prologue to the "Superman Doomed" crossover, and also work as a stand-alone comic in its own right. While having to hit all of those points keeps the book from being too riveting, Charles Soule, Paulo Siqueira, Eddy Barrows and Barry Kitson manage to make the comic more or less work.
Soule deals with the fallout (figuratively and literally) of last issue’s atomic explosion, and what’s nice is how he continues to keep an eye on the idea of this being “Superman/Wonder Woman,” rather than a Superman or a Wonder Woman story that just happens to guest star the other hero. We see how each of them recuperates, one based in science and the other with mythological powers. But in general, that’s why “Superman/Wonder Woman” — both issue #7 and the series — works so well. Soule makes this a real team-up between the two, neither being the center star, and lets readers see their relationship (personal and professional) continue to grow. It’s probably no small coincidence that one of the best scenes here is just two pages of them going out to a club.
That said, “Superman/Wonder Woman” #7 has to juggle a lot here, and the end result makes the book a tiny bit uneven. It has to check off a lot of different boxes, and the end result is a comic that feels like it could be sliced into three different collections down the line. Each piece works well, but the three parts don’t mesh together quite as much as they otherwise could.
The art team this month, on the other hand, works pretty well together. Siqueria and Barrows’s pencils in particular match up quite nicely, although it certainly doesn’t hurt that Eber Ferreira inks them both. Siqueria’s art reminds me a bit of the late Michael Turner’s, although with a more grounded sense of anatomy and an overall cleaner look. When Wonder Woman and Superman are flying through the air and looking at one another, their expressions on their faces just make the entire page shine. Kitson’s two pages are instantly recognizable — the characters’ faces and bodies are a bit fuller and more solid — but at the same time there’s such a strong expression of joy on them that it instantly made me want to see an entire issue drawn by Kitson.
Hopefully the “Superman Doomed” storyline that “Superman/Wonder Woman” #7 is serving as prologue to works well; I’m enjoying “Superman/Wonder Woman” too much to want it derailed by a big crossover. Even when there’s a weaker than normal issue here, "Superman/Wonder Woman" is still worth my and your time.
Weekly Wonder Woman: Superman/Wonder Woman #7, Smallville: Lantern #5 and Justice League Beyond #16-17 - The Medium is Not Enough TV blog
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Superman/Wonder Woman #7
Is it any good?
It’s still very good, but this issue is a little lighter than normal in terms of plot, it has to be said, although it contains some great character work.
Largely, it’s designed to do two things: catch the strip up with activity in other titles; and get us ready for the Doomsday crossover that’s coming in the next few months. To do that, we have a slightly strange jump of who-knows-how-long between the events at the end of last issue and now, during which Diana and Clark aren’t supposed to have seen each other at all. A bit unlikely, given the declarations and events of the previous issue, but given how isolated Wonder Woman is as a title and what has been going on there, a necessity one suspects.
Either way, writer Charles Soule and artists Paulo Siqueira, Eddy Barrows and Barry Kitson (standing in for Tony Daniel) do a decent job of addressing those events as swiftly as they can, with London, which was pretty devastated by the First Born in Wonder Woman, clearly being rebuilt in the background of various panels this issue. We also see Diana addressing a question that will have been pressing on the minds of Wonder Woman readers since that tumultuous issue and which Brian Azzarello naturally hasn’t even attempted to answer in any depth – what does it actually mean for Wonder Woman to be the Goddess of War? Soule gives us an answer that’s both interesting and in character for Diana, but I’m sure there’ll be more to come.
One especially nice touch this issue is Soule’s use of the two characters’ different methods of recuperation to tell us more about them as people. Superman heads off to his Fortress of Solitude and gets his Kryptonian technology to look after him. Meanwhile, Wonder Woman heads off to find her Amazon friend Hessia, who uses the Amazons’ purple healing power to heal her.
You remember the Amazons’ purple healing power don’t you? It hasn’t been used as part of the nu52 before, but it’s been a part of Wonder Woman lore since Steve Trevor crashed landed on Paradise Island and Diana used it to heal him in William Marston’s very first issue of Wonder Woman:
Soule uses this to show not just the difference between Superman and Wonder Woman as superheroes – one is very much a science-fiction superhero, the other a superheroine of magic and myth – but as people: Superman is used to being alone, to solitude, whether that’s as a twice-orphan, the near-last Kryptonian, as a blogger without many work colleagues or a man without many friends who don’t wear masks and capes; Wonder Woman is used to sisterhood, to being part of a collective and to giving and receiving aid from her friends. It is to some extent why she seems to drive and control their relationship, since by embracing togetherness, she basically knows how to navigate it better.
Soule shows this again in the club scene. Firstly, the club doesn’t look like the mosh pit ofWonder Woman #4, where Wonder Woman dressed very differently (and was conspicuously taller)…
So although this could still be Soule capitalising on that previous piece of character background, it seems more likely that Diana simply likes dancing at lots of clubs, which shouldn’t be totally unexpected in a character with Greek heritage (although one who clearly hasn’t hung out much in Greece if in her experience, not all men like to dance – or is that perhaps a dig at Steve Trevor?). Indeed, here, Diana is clearly loved by everyone in the club, wants to spend time with other people and wants to dance, and the warmer colours of her outfit versus Clark’s darker colours reflect their different levels of sociability:
All this shows us sides to both Clark and Diana that we’ve not seen in any other nu52 titles. Together with all the relationship details, it’s certainly an issue to squee over.
Artistically, the issue is a bit more variable than normal, thanks to Daniel’s absence: on the whole, Siqueira and co do a good job, but Siqueira’s artwork is notably starker than Daniel’s. That works well for ‘drained’ Clark in the first few pages of the title, but gives Diana a slightly harsh quality. The flipside of that is that Barrows’ and Kitson’s work later in the title is at least as good as Daniel’s, although not as precise, and facially, they give us a prettier Diana, albeit one who is a little more, erm, well endowed than normal.
As an intriguing footnote, I also wonder if perhaps the starred tanktop is a reference to Donna Troy, Diana’s pre-nu52 sister:
Something to think about, hey?
While not the usually action-driven piece – Doomsday largely just floats around in the sea a lot, while various baddies discuss how bad he is – it’s still a really good issue and things are only going to hot up subsequently as the next story arc kicks off in earnest.
In Superman #30 first, though. Ah, crossovers…
Q:I think the only reason why people call it sexist is because they feel that Diana will be turned into a damsel in distress but if people continue to read SM/WW and actually comprehend, Diana is far from that. The argument also comes off as bias, contradictory and more than likely doesn't make sense. The bigger picture is they don't like the change nor even try to give it a chance and that's with practically everything new 52. I'm reading the book and Charles Soule is doing great job!
I agree there are people genuinely who worried that Diana could be overshadowed by an alpha male but as you say, just pick up the Superman/Wonder Woman book and see how authentic Charles Soule writes them as people and as a couple and as heroes. Many people have confessed they really did not know what to expect with the Superman/Wonder Woman title and were pleasantly surprised at how good it was and how it has become one of their favorite DC and even in some cases favorite SM or WW title. Just look at all the different reviews we link to across the internet. Most respected comic-book sites who review a wide variety of comics, have praised the book. As Greg Pak said it can be quite tough writing icons with vulnerabilities and even flaws and still make them heroic. Sometimes writers are guilty of mary suing characters so they are too perfect and lack any complexities and that makes a really boring read in my opinion.
But I think one cannot miss there IS a loud vocal minority that actually accuse the pairing and it’s readers of sexism long before the first issue was even out and still after 7 issues condemn it though they have said they won’t buy or read it. They are angry about the pairing because it is not the pairing they like.
Q:Mr Pak, I keep coming across some fans who keep calling those who write the Superman/Wonder Woman relationship and support the coupling as sexist and promoting misogyny. I really don't understand this myself as I never saw SM as a symbol of male repression and WW is a unique, strong, independent hero and if anything she challenges/contrasts with Kal's pov in many interesting ways. Seeing you have touched on them as a couple and will be writing Diana, do you think you are promoting sexism?
Thanks for the question! The short answer is no, I don’t think the Superman/Wonder Woman relationship necessarily results in sexist storytelling, nor would I ever purposefully promote sexism in anything I write.
I might write about sexist characters or write about worlds/scenarios imbued with sexism — you can see that in the attitude of the crusaders in TUROK right now. But I hope I’m not doing so uncritically.
I totally understand how folks can get worried about how Wonder Woman is handled. She’s a huge character who represents a lot to millions of people. And, as with Superman, I think writers have a special challenge to write her convincingly as a human being with the flaws and foibles that make characters dramatically compelling while maintaining that very special kind of heroism that makes her so special.
But I think if you look at my record, I’ve worked hard to write interesting and multi-dimensional women in my films and books. I’ll continue doing that with Diana to the best of my ability.
Readers, as always, will be the judge of all this.
All the best.
Thank you , Greg Pak!
Q:That design is fantastic for Diana and Kal's daughter! Hopefully they will have a kid in the future! And will you be putting up more scans of WW from Batman and ....#30?
If there is anything blog worthy we will reblog for sure from other people. I don’t really follow Batman books so I have no real need to pick up that title as it is about Batman/Damien’s storyline than Diana’s.
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Q:Dear friends: I was just curious to ask your opinion on the internet bickering that goes on everywhere. I've seen you class-ily defend this site against other passionate shipper combinations. But what I want to know is, have there ever been reports of WW/SM shippers attacking Bats or Lois shippers? Or is it only just them that attack un-provokingly?
I can’t speak for around the internet, it is a large place with many people, but if this blog or other sm/ww shippers were routinely going around doing that on tumblr or twitter one would see it on the Wonder Woman or Superman tags. Scroll through the tags and you will see for yourself what and how people blog. You can also scroll through our archive and you’ll see we mainly celebrate our couple and try to have fun here. Sure we answer asks ( some are very hostile and insulting btw) or share our opinion on why we prefer our couple over other pairings but I don’t believe all SM/WW shippers spend their time ranting at other pairings. SM/WW fans and DC creators on the other hand have been called sexist and misogynistic and lacking in taste and stupid etc by detractors.